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Pennsylvania AP News
Pennsylvania Associated Press Broadcasters Association
CONTEST WINNERS AP announces 2007 broadcast news contest award winners
PITTSBURGH (AP) _ Roy Shapiro, former vice president and
general manager of KYW Newsradio in Philadelphia, is the
2008 winner of the Roy E. Morgan Award for Outstanding
Contribution to Broadcasting. Three radio stations and two television stations were honored with the Joe Snyder Award for Outstanding News Service in their market classifications: KYW, Philadelphia; WSBA, York; WKOK, Sunbury; KYW-TV, Philadelphia; and WGAL-TV, Lancaster. KYW Newsradio in Philadelphia won the Sandy Starobin Award for Enterprise/Individual Reporting by major market stations in 2007. The station was cited for its entry, "The Delaware Valley on the Front Lines," by reporter Michelle Durham. The AP staff also cited eight Pennsylvania stations for outstanding membership cooperation in covering the news for The AP in 2007: KYW, Philadelphia; KYW-TV, Philadelphia; the Radio Pennsylvania Network, Harrisburg; WFMZ-TV, Allentown; WGAL-TV, Lancaster; WGRC, Lewisburg; WJPA, Washington, Pa.; and WNEP-TV, Scranton/Wilkes-Barre. The contest entries were judged by the Illinois AP Broadcasters Association. In some cases, awards were not made because (1) there were not enough entries in a particular category, (2) the judges felt that entries did not fit the criteria specified in the entry rules, and/or (3) that there was such a wide gap in quality between those that did win and the other entries in the category no additional award(s) could be given. The Associated Press is not involved in judging of the awards and assumes no responsibility for the judges' choices. The judges' results are final.
ENTERPRISE/INDIVIDUAL REPORTING SANDY STAROBIN AWARD FOR OUTSTANDING REPORTING - KYW, Philadelphia "The Delaware Valley on the Front Lines" Michelle Durham, Reporter Description: A KYW Newsradio reporter goes on assignment in a war zone - embedded aboard the nuclear-powered aircraft carrier USS Enterprise in the Persian Gulf, and talking with service men and women from the Philadelphia area. Judges' Comments: Great job in bringing individual soldiers' stories home. Phenomenonal natural sound.
2nd Place - WDUQ, Pittsburgh "Surveillance Cameras" Katherine Fink, Reporter Description: Pittsburgh is creating a citywide network of surveillance cameras. Katherine Fink examines citizens' concerns about the use of public money as well as the issue of privacy. Judges' Comments: Loved the nat sound! It really brought us into the neighborhood. Well written and balanced.
3rd Place - WHYY, Philadelphia "Disabled Refugees" Susan Phillips, Reporter Description: A public interest law firm in Philadelphia filed a class action suit against federal authorities to restore health care benefits for thousands of disabled and elderly refugees across the country. WHYY's Susan Phillips spoke with the lead plaintiff in the case. Judges' Comments: Great storytelling. We could see the men right in front of us.
NEWS DOCUMENTARY
1st Place - Radio PA Network, Harrisburg "The Gift" Jim Melwert, Reporter Description: A behind-the-scenes, touching and sometimes surprising account of how organ donation can affect a family. Judges' Comments: Delivery was spectacular. Emotional and personal. It painted a picture of the family's struggles and the process itself. Wow! Blew away the competition. Writing was great but allowed the sound to tell the story.
2nd Place - WDUQ, Pittsburgh "The Duty of Public Service" Jodi Wu, Writer/Producer; Kevin Gavin, Executive Producer Description: Archibald Cox is known to most as the Watergate special prosecutor, but his long career is a shining example of public service. This program, featuring Cox, many of his colleagues and a panel of Pittsburghers, examines that commitment to public service and if and how civic engagement has changed. Judges' Comments: Interesting approach to a topic not often discussed in news.
3rd Place - (None) SPOT NEWS 1st Place - KYW, Philadelphia "The Murder of Officer Cassidy" KYW Newsradio Staff Description: Coverage of the shooting of a Philadelphia police officer, the search for his killer, and the reaction of residents and city officials. Judges' Comments: Fantastic job of getting pertinent information out. Live shots were great. An all-around team effort.
2nd Place - KDKA, Pittsburgh "A Perfect Storm" KDKA News Staff Description: The KDKA news team sprang into action to cover a powerful storm that gave Pittsburgh a one-two punch, in both the morning and afternoon of Aug. 9, 2007. Judges' Comments: Hosts and the newsroom combined for great coverage.
3rd Place - KDKA, Pittsburgh "Route 28 Rockslide" Rob Milford, Reporter; Bob Kopler, Anchor Description: Car-sized boulders crashed down on heavily traveled Route 28 just in time for morning rush hour. Judges' Comments: Good, quick hits. Used all of their available assets and used them well.
CONTINUING COVERAGE
1st Place - KDKA, Pittsburgh "A Perfect Storm" KDKA News Staff Description: The KDKA News team sprang into action with continuing in-depth team coverage of a powerful pair of August storms, then followed several hard-hit communities through their recovery in the weeks and months that followed. Judges' Comments: We could tell that KDKA was on top of this story from the get-go. Great use of eyes and ears on the street for info. Great use of officials for useful information.
2nd Place - WHYY, Philadelphia "Anti-Violence Coverage" Susan Phillips, Elizabeth Fiedler & Joel Rose, Reporters Description: Ongoing coverage of the terrible prevalence of violence in Philadelphia. Judges' Comments: Great research and investigation of an important issue. Superb!
3rd Place - KYW, Philadelphia "The Reid Brothers' Troubles" KYW Newsradio Staff Description: Coverage of the legal problems for the two sons of Philadelphia Eagles coach Andy Reid, and the public and private toll upon his family and the team. Judges' Comments: Good job of staying with an unfolding story throughout the year.
REGULARLY SCHEDULED NEWSCAST
1st Place - KYW, Philadelphia "All News All The Time - 11/7/07" Harry Donahue, Carol MacKenzie & Ed Abrams, Anchors; Lauren Lipton, Editor Description: A sample of KYW Newsradio's "All News All The Time" format from Wednesday morning, Nov. 7, 6:30 a.m. to 7:30 a.m. Judges' Comments: Extensive use of sound. Very large and skilled staff. In-depth political coverage on morning after mayor's race. Authoritative anchors.
2nd Place - KDKA, Pittsburgh "4 p.m. News - 9/11/07" Paul Rasmussen & Rose Ryan-Douglas, Anchors Description: Paul, Rose and the entire KDKA News team keep Pittsburghers up-to-date with news, weather and traffic. Judges' Comments: Good mix of national and local news. Effective use of reporters.
3rd Place - WHYY, Philadelphia "WHYY's Morning Edition" WHYY News Staff; Brenda Jorett, Anchor Description: Morning Edition reaches more than 600,000 listeners a week providing international, national and local news along with local traffic reports, weather and in-depth local features. While having a relatively small news department in a major market, the WHYY staff works to provide news and long-form reports and features that focus on politics, arts and culture, science and current affairs issues affecting the Philadelphia region. Judges' Comments: Well written. Very pleasant anchor voice. Effective use of reporters.
PUBLIC AFFAIRS
1st Place - KYW, Philadelphia "Fighting Fat at School" Mike DeNardo & Hadas Kuznits, Reporters Description: Segments of KYW Newsradio's "Regional Affairs Council" series on how school districts and parents in the Philadelphia area are battling the bulge in children. Judges' Comments: Great coverage. Complete and in-depth. Great use of sound and interviews.
2nd Place - KQV, Pittsburgh "Pittsburgh Profiles: Adopting the Older Child" Elaine Effort, Reporter Description: Pittsburgh Profileshas been a mainstay of KQV's weekend programming. The program which aired Dec. 23 focused on adopting an older child. Judges' Comments: Host does a good job getting guests to open up. Good conversational style. Complete coverage of issue.
3rd Place - WHYY, Philadelphia "Three Young Men" Elizabeth Fiedler, Reporter Description: Elizabeth Fiedler sat down with some young African American men who get mentoring and cultural guidance from a Philadelphia organization called Concerned Black Men. It was created 30 years ago by five Philadelphia police officers and it continues to reach hundreds of the city's at-risk youth every year. Judges' Comments: Good piece. Competition was tough in this category.
FEATURE
1st Place - WDUQ, Pittsburgh "Craft Congress" Katherine Fink, Reporter Description: Members of the independent crafting movement often look like punk rockers, but some are starting to sound a lot like business students. Katherine Fink reports on the first Craft Congress which was held in Pittsburgh. Judges' Comments: Great descriptions and very well written.
2nd Place - WHYY, Philadelphia "Burmese Refugees" Susan Phillips, Reporter Description: For the past six months, Burmese refugees have been moving to Philadelphia. The protests against the military junta in Burma, also known as Myanmar, are still closely watched by this small group of immigrants who are being resettled in South Philadelphia. Judges' Comments: Good use of sound. The reporter has a very pleasant voice.
3rd Place - KYW, Philadelphia "The New Ten Commandments" Michelle Durham, Reporter Description: Philadelphia-area motorists recite the Vatican's new "Ten Commandments of Driving." Judges' Comments: Fun story. MOS at its finest.
SERIES
1st Place - WHYY, Philadelphia "Life Stories: Victims of Street Violence" WHYY News Staff Description: A series of stories that looked beyond the obituaries to lives touched by violence in Philadelphia. Judges' Comments: Wonderful job telling the stories of people who may have otherwise gone unnoticed.
2nd Place - WHYY, Philadelphia "Philadelphia Mayor's Race" Susan Phillips, Lead Reporter; WHYY News Staff Description: Coverage of Philadelphia's hotly contested mayoral election. Judges' Comments: Fantastic job breaking down the candidates and issues.
3rd Place - KYW, Philadelphia "Setting the Michael Nutter Agenda" Mike Dunn, Reporter Description: A series of special reports spotlighting the issues and problems facing Philadelphia Mayor-elect Michael Nutter. Judges' Comments: Great job laying out what is ahead for the new administration.
RADIO SOUND
1st Place - WRTI, Philadelphia "The Bell Towers" Susan Lewis, Reporter; Jim Cotter, Editor/Producer Description: Susan Lewis looks at and listens to carillons. The centuries-old collections of bells are among the oldest forms of public art and the world's largest musical instrument. Judges' Comments: Great story! We felt like we were there. A bit long, but well done.
2nd Place - WDUQ, Pittsburgh "Didgeridoo: Old Meets New" Mark Nootbaar, Reporter Description: Australian didgeridoo artist William Barton was in Pittsburgh to talk about the traditional instrument and its unique music. He gave a few performances, including one with a rapper. Judges' Comments: Overall production was good. Needed to bring in nat sound sooner.
3rd Place - (None)
SPORTSCAST
1st Place - KDKA, Pittsburgh "June 20, 2007" Jeff Hathhorn, KDKA Sports Director Description: Another Pirates loss and the death of Ben Roethlisberger's mentor highlight this sportscast from June 20, 2007. Judges' Comments: Good writing. Sportscast was significantly enhanced by using sound in three of the four stories while keeping length to 1:23.
2nd Place - (None)
3rd Place - (None)
SPORTS PLAY-BY-PLAY
(None)
SPORTS FEATURE
1st Place - KYW, Philadelphia "Eagles vs. Saints" Paul Kurtz, Reporter Description: KYW Newsradio travels with Philadelphia Eagles fans to New Orleans for an NFL playoff game against the Saints. (And they didn't come home happy!) Judges' Comments: Story moved well and took us to the scene. Good job condensing several days' action.
2nd Place - WHYY, Philadelphia "Phillies' 10,000 Losses" Joel Rose, Reporter Description: The Philadelphia Phillies may not have made it to the World Series, but they did set one record this year when they lost their 10,000th game. Judges' Comments: Good use of nat sound and scene setting.
3rd Place - (None)
NEWS OR SPORTS TALK PROGRAM
1st Place - KDKA, Pittsburgh "The Fred Honsberger Show - 6/20/07" Fred Honsberger, Host; Amy Mauk, Producer Description: The Fred Honsberger Show airs weekdays 3-6 p.m. on KDKA. This portion of the show includes Fred discussing and taking calls on the state Legislature and also the trial of the wife of a murdered doctor. Judges' Comments: One of the most entertaining three minutes of radio we've heard in a while.
2nd Place - KDKA, Pittsburgh "The Fred Honsberger Show - 11/07/07" Fred Honsberger, Host; Amy Mauk, Producer Description: The Fred Honsberger Show airs weekdays 3-6 p.m. on KDKA. This portion of the show has Fred discussing the outcome of the high-profile mayoral election. Judges' Comments: Great lively debate!
3rd Place - WPHT, Philadelphia "Remembering the Events of 9/11" Susan Monday & Dom Giordano, Co-Hosts Description: A special news-talk broadcast commemorating the sixth anniversary of Sept. 11. A dual broadcast from the BigTalker's studio and the Hannity Freedom Concert at Great Adventure. Judges' Comments: Big-name guests made the show.
JOE SNYDER AWARD FOR OUTSTANDING NEWS SERVICE
KYW, Philadelphia
RADIO B - MEDIUM MARKET STATIONS
ENTERPRISE/INDIVIDUAL REPORTING
1st Place - WITF, Harrisburg "HOPE Hounds Profile" Andrew Gena, Producer Description: This audio postcard introduces us to the leaders and participants of a unique program designed to train dogs and rehabilitate inmates. Judges' Comments: The reporter didn't get in the way but let the people tell the story. Good use of sound. Clearly, a lot of work went into this.
2nd Place - ComRadio, State College "Stores Fight Back" Robert Arcamona, Reporter Description: Centre and Blair county convenience stores fought back during a rash of armed robberies. Rob Arcamona talked to employees and managers who'd had enough. Judges' Comments: Good narrative and use of sound. Easy to follow.
3rd Place - WAEB, Allentown "Sometimes a Negative is a Positive" Dan Holzman, Reporter Description: A step-by-step report on the easy, pain-free and quick process of taking an HIV test. This story ran on National HIV Testing Day. Judges' Comments: The judges liked the decision to put the reporter in the story.
NEWS DOCUMENTARY
1st Place - WILK, Wilkes-Barre Scranton "Baby Born Behind Bars" Steve Corbett, Sue Henry & Phil Cummings, Reporters Description: An in-depth probe of the July birth of a baby at the Lackawanna County Prison. Judges' Comments: Great presentation of a hotly debated news story. Well balanced and still compelling for listeners.
2nd Place - Radio PA Network, Harrisburg "Eerie, Pennsylvania: The Second Sight" Brad Christman, Reporter Description: An annual Halloween special that examines the "strange and unexplained" in Pennsylvania, this year investigating claims of psychic abilities and the use of psychics by law enforcement. Judges' Comments: Well produced with real life applications to an unusual, or unbelievable, topic.
3rd Place - WHP, Harrisburg "Alamo Bowl Preview" Bob Hauer, Reporter Description: We have a look at the upcoming Alamo Bowl matchup between Penn State and Texas A&M. Judges' Comments: Started strong but became sports talk instead of a news doc.
SPOT NEWS
1st Place - WSBA, York "Explosion" Cathy Clark, Reporter; Bill Saunders & Dennis Edwards, Anchors Description: On a late February morning, an explosion tore apart a home in York County. Cathy Clark provided the initial report on The Gary Sutton Show, then drove to the scene. Judges' Comments: Solid field reporting. Good advancing of the story. This was the only true example of spot news.
2nd Place - (None)
3rd Place - (None)
CONTINUING COVERAGE
1st Place - Radio PA Network, Harrisburg "A House Divided" Brad Christman & Matt Paul, Reporters Description: Continuing coverage of an unexpected bitter battle for control of the Pennsylvania House of Representatives and the surprising conclusion. Judges' Comments: Good illustration of complicated political wrangling. Kudos for hustle on the New Year.
2nd Place - (None)
3rd Place - (None)
REGULARLY SCHEDULED NEWSCAST
1st Place - WSBA, York "7 a.m. News - 11/7/07" Cathy Clark & Dennis Edwards, Anchors; Mark McKenzie, Editor Description: This is the local news portion only; at the top of the hour we air FOX News for national content. The election night audio was edited by Mark McKenzie and obtained by six stringers in the field, coordinated by talk show host Gary Sutton and producer Stu Leppo. Judges' Comments: Good writing. Concise wrapup of elections. Good to hear from so many candidates!
2nd Place - Radio PA Network, Harrisburg "Radio PA Newscast - 6/20/07" Brad Christman, Anchor Description: Regularly scheduled Radio PA newscast from June 20th. Judges' Comments: Excellent job of explaining state budget process and impact on people.
3rd Place - WHP, Harrisburg "WHP 580 News - 9/11/07, 8 a.m." Bill Mead & Bob Hauer; with Dave Andrews, Tom Russell, Jaime Meyers, Christine Ricci & Matt Meyer Description: Our top of the hour news from 8 a.m. on Sept. 11. Judges' Comments: Lots of news in a short time. Comprehensive. It let the judges know what was going on in your region.
PUBLIC AFFAIRS
1st Place - Radio PA Network, Harrisburg "Countdown 2007" Brad Christman & Matt Paul, Reporters Description: A year-end countdown of the top Pennsylvania stories of 2007, presented in a one-hour format. Judges' Comments: Nicely produced, flows well. It doesn't stick with one subject for an unbearably long time.
2nd Place - WHP, Harrisburg "Senators Preview" Bob Hauer & Michael Parks, Reporters Description: We take a look at the upcoming Harrisburg Senators season. The Senators are the Washington Nationals' Double-A team. Judges' Comments: (None)
3rd Place - (None)
FEATURE
1st Place - ComRadio, State College "Central Pennsylvania National Guard Troops to Iraq" David Klatt, Reporter Description: Pennsylvania National Guard members were headed to Iraq in 12 months. The reason? The Stryker. David Klatt visited one training exercise to find out what a Stryker is and how it helps U.S. troops in Iraq. Judges' Comments: Excellent writing. Great use of sound. You really took us to the scene!
2nd Place - WITF, Harrisburg "A Night with the Nuclear Knockouts" Jen Rehill, Reporter; Casey Houtz & Andrew Gena, Producers Description: A closer look at a sports sensation that's enoying a resurgence in central Pennsylvania and across the country: roller derby. Judges' Comments: Great use of sound. Interesting and unique story.
3rd Place - WITF, Harrisburg "Life Story Writing Groups" Tim Lambert, Reporter; Andrew Gena, Producer Description: An audio postcard featuring members of a 'life story writing group' at a central Pennsylvania retirement community. Judges' Comments: Fitting that the story about storytellers was told by the storytellers. Clever way of bringing the piece to light.
SERIES
1st Place - WHP, Harrisburg "The Pennsylvania Farm Show" Bob Hauer, Reporter Description: Bob takes a look at the annual Pennsylvania Farm Show, a decades-long tradition in Harrisburg. He speaks with the people who make the show work, including the folks who have to deal with the inevitable poop that falls on the floor, a reminder that not everything is wonderful 'down on the farm.' Judges' Comments: Excellent production. Many aspects of an event. Excellent delivery.
2nd Place - WSBA, York "Hidden Treasures of York County" Cathy Clark, Bill Saunders & Mark McKenzie, Reporters Description: This was an interactive series of reports on sites of historic significance in York County that can be visited and enjoyed. The interactive component is a series of photos and links on our Web site www.wsba910.com. The entry includes a printout of the link. Judges' Comments: (None)
3rd Place - Radio PA Network, Harrisburg "Radio PA's Top 10 Stories of 2007" Brad Christman, Reporter Description: A 10-part series highlighting the top Pennsylvania stories of 2007. Judges' Comments: (None)
RADIO SOUND
1st Place - WITF, Harrisburg "History Meets the Arts in Gettysburg" Andrew Gena, Producer Description: A visit to the 10th annual History Meets the Arts Festival in Gettysburg generated this audio postcard. Judges' Comments: A first-rate job of using sound to take us to the event without the need of a reporter.
2nd Place - WITF, Harrisburg "A Vigil for David" Scott Gilbert, Reporter Description: Friends and family of a Perry County soldier killed in Iraq are joined by community members at a gathering to solemnly remember his life. Judges' Comments: Again, a first-rate job of using sound to take us to the event without the need of a reporter.
3rd Place - Radio PA Network, Harrisburg "A Line in the Sand" Brad Christman, Reporter Description: The sounds of fighting illegal immigration along the U.S.-Mexican border with the Pennsylvania National Guard in Arizona. Judges' Comments: Good use of actualities intertwined with sound of what was happening at the time.
SPORTSCAST
1st Place - WSBA, York "Sportscast - June 2007" Jeffrey Schiffman, Reporter Description: Regularly scheduled sportscast on WSBA radio. Judges' Comments: Good energy, lots of information in a short amount of time.
2nd Place - Radio PA Network, Harrisburg "Radio PA Sportscast - 11/7/07" Dave Eddy, Reporter Description: Regularly scheduled Radio PA sportscast from Nov. 7. Judges' Comments: Good overall sportscast.
3rd Place - (None)
SPORTS PLAY-BY-PLAY
1st Place - WSBA, York "The York Revolution" Darrell Henry & Gary Sutton, Reporters; Nate Bucklew, Producer Description: Play-by-play of the inaugural season of the Atlantic League York Revolution baseball team on WSBA. The game is Aug. 1, Revolution vs. Camden, a first inning excerpt. Judges' Comments: The team sounds comfortable together, and knowledgeable. They kept our interest. Good descriptions really painted the picture.
2nd Place - WEEU, Reading "Friday Night (High)lights" Mitch Gerhart, Sports Director; Paul Roberts & Bob McCool, Analysts; Matt Gorney, Board-Op/Producer Description: Excerpts of WEEU's 2007 high school football live broadcast season, including play-by-play, post-game interviews and in-game updates. Judges' Comments: Good energy. Illustrated the action well. Included some non-play-by-play cuts, post-game, etc.
3rd Place - WILK, Wilkes-Barre Scranton "High School Football" Joe Thomas, Rob Neyhard & Gary Ferrentino, Reporters Description: (None) Judges' Comments: Solid play-by-play.
SPORTS FEATURE
1st Place - WITF, Harrisburg "A Night with the Nuclear Knockouts" Jen Rehill, Reporter; Casey Houtz & Andrew Gena, Producers Description: A closer look at a sports sensation that's enoying a resurgence in central Pennsylvania and across the country: roller derby. Judges' Comments: Well written, good pacing and good use of sound. Wonderful story that kept the judges' interest throughout. Best entry in a strong category.
2nd Place - Radio PA Network, Harrisburg "2007 Penn State Preview" Craig Rhodes & Brad Christman, Reporters Description: A preview of the 2007 Nittany Lions football squad. Judges' Comments: Strong writing. Strong delivery. Fun piece on Paterno vs. media.
3rd Place - Radio PA Network, Harrisburg "Radio PA's Top 10 Stories of 2007" Dave Eddy, Reporter Description: A look back at the biggest sports stories in the year that was 2007. Judges' Comments: Excellent summary of the top sports stories. Good variety.
NEWS OR SPORTS TALK PROGRAM
1st Place - WSBA, York "York's Morning News - 6/20/07" Jim Horn & Dennis Edwards, Hosts; Cathy Clark, News Director; Jeffrey Schiffman, Sports Director Description: York's Morning News on WSBA is a news and information morning show featuring hosts Jim Horn and Dennis Edwards, News Director Cathy Clark and Sports Director Jeffrey Schiffman. Traffic and weather updates are every 10 minutes, with newsmaker interviews and commentary features from Rush Limbaugh, WSBA talk show host Gary Sutton and others. Judges' Comments: Straight-forward, not over-the-top, seamlessly combining news and newsmaker interviews. What a morning news program should sound like.
2nd Place - WSBA, York "The Gary Sutton Show - 11/7/07" Gary Sutton, Host; Stu Leppo, Producer Description: The Day After: A retrospective of the 2007 mid-term election in York County and statewide, with various winners and losers. Judges' Comments: Not a lot of time wasted with opening. Way to get the newsmakers on quickly.
3rd Place - (None)
JOE SNYDER AWARD FOR OUTSTANDING NEWS SERVICE
WSBA, York
RADIO C - SMALL MARKET STATIONS
ENTERPRISE/INDIVIDUAL REPORTING
1st Place - WKOK, Sunbury "Prescription Drug Abuse" Ali Stevens, Reporter Description: A look at prescription drug abuse from the eyes of a local physician and a district attorney. The doctor talks about addiction and what compels users to commit crimes. The district attorney talks about how to keep drug offenders out of the court system. Judges' Comments: (None)
2nd Place - (None)
3rd Place - (None)
NEWS DOCUMENTARY
(None)
SPOT NEWS
1st Place - WGRC, Lewisburg "Hummels Wharf Business Fire" Don Casteline, Reporter; Jim Diehl, Anchor Description: Don Casteline reports live from a burning dental business in Snyder County Judges' Comments: Anchor and reporter worked well together, using a few followup questions.
2nd Place - (None)
3rd Place - (None)
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